{"id":77,"date":"2009-01-14T07:56:22","date_gmt":"2009-01-14T01:56:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.returningking.com\/?p=73"},"modified":"2009-01-14T07:56:22","modified_gmt":"2009-01-14T01:56:22","slug":"an-emerging-relativism-part-2-of-emergent-characteristics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/returningking.com\/?p=77","title":{"rendered":"An Emerging Relativism"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"seriesmeta\">This entry is part 13 of 23 in the series <a href=\"http:\/\/returningking.com\/?series=wolves\" class=\"series-218\" title=\"Wolves in Wool\">Wolves in Wool<\/a><\/div><h3 id=\"77_religious-relativism_1\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><em><span style=\"font-size: medium; font-family: Cambria;\">Religious Relativism (part 2 of Emergent Characteristics)<\/span><\/em><\/h3>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">&#8220;Relativism&#8221; is the philosophical concept that a certain aspect of one&#8217;s experience is dependent upon another.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>For example, one person may believe an individual to be beautiful while another person believes that same individual to be quite unsightly.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>In such cases, the application or understanding of beauty is indeed &#8220;relative&#8221; to the person interpreting it.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>In certain applications however, relativism is the philosophical enemy of the concept of &#8220;absolute truth,&#8221; (or universal truth) which essentially asserts that what is true for you is true for me, and it is true for people of all times and places.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><!--more-->While relativism exists in truly subjective areas of life, there are other areas which are not subjective.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>While beauty may be in the eyes of the beholder, arithmetic, gravity and<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>the mind of a sovereign God are not.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Some things are as they are regardless of the lens through which people attempt to view them.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>To misunderstand, misrepresent or simply ignore that 2+2=4 changes nothing as to the finite and unchanging nature of its truth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">Religious relativism, of course, applies the same principle to matters of religious truth.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>A common sentiment of the post-modern culture for example, is that religious truth is simply too big for any singular religious group to apprehend.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Christians claim that Jesus is the only way to God while Muslims claim that Muhammad is the prophet of enlightenment whose teachings one must adhere to in order to attain the knowledge of God.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Others have their own deities inserted into their equations while a growing margin are coming to maintain that there is no God at all.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">The idea of no one &#8220;having it right&#8221; sounds both humble and wise on the surface.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Indeed, surely no one has <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">everything<\/em> right.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Even within the most narrow viewpoints of a singular church there arise disagreements over the nature of some doctrines.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>But, to say that no one has <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">everything<\/em> right is quite a different assertion than to claim that no one can have a handle on absolute truth.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>That &#8220;God exists&#8221; is an assertion of absolute truth which some choose to reject while others embrace.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>One group is indeed clearly wrong.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Make no mistake about the very root of religious relativism:<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>it is fundamentally flawed.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>We can&#8217;t all have part of the truth when we make claims which are mutually exclusive; especially at such a finite level as the very truth-claims concerning the existence of God.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Someone is plain wrong.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">Religious relativism asserts quite a different spin on the legitimate issue.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Rather than attempting to promote one group&#8217;s religious views over another, the idea is that instead we blanketly endorse them all as being legitimate within the confines of those who practice it.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Islam is &#8220;truth&#8221; to those who practice it.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Christianity is &#8220;truth&#8221; to those who practice <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">it<\/em>.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>All-the-while, both Jesus and Muhammad claimed to be the prophet which leads men to God.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">Bringing the argument to the Emergent paradigm, I should first clarify that the <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">assertions<\/em> of most Emergent leaders is not a formally relativistic position.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Many claim to believe in absolute truth.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>However, the teachings of emergent leaders seem to be at great odds with such claims, for while most assert the <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">existence<\/em> of absolute truth they contend that our ability to <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">know<\/em> absolute truth is tainted by our individual perspectives.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>So, because the members of a Sunday School classroom can&#8217;t all agree on the elements of Calvinism, for example,\u00a0they cannot assert to have arrived at orthodoxy.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Thus, the truth claims of all religions are marked as equally inconsistent and therefore equally failing to represent the essence of absolute truth.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>As such, Emergents who are following the crumbs of this argument have almost completely capitulated to the postmodern mindset at the exclusion of the Bible&#8217;s own claims.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>It is their position that\u00a0even &#8220;we&#8221; in Christianity cannot claim to have arrived at orthodoxy; otherwise we would all agree.\u00a0 The distinction between agreeing on <em>everything<\/em> and agreeing on <em>anything<\/em> is completely overlooked and\/or ignored in this argument.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">This position completely throws the baby out with the bath water.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>While we do not all agree on many non-essential elements of the faith, I do not think God will be very impressed with our great advances in logic which presume that what He has given us in the revelation of the Bible is somehow lacking in its ability to point the world to himself. He has made what is necessary to know about himself self-evident.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>If one believes the Bible as a trustworthy source of his revelation (as far as I know, emergents, among others, still claim the Bible as such) then one must come to terms with what he has made crystal clear.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">For example, in the Bible Jesus states,<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNoSpacing\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in;\"><em><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\"><strong>John 14:6 (NIV) <\/strong><br \/>\n<sup>6 <\/sup>\u2026 &#8220;I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.&#8221; <\/span><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">As one who believes that we <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">can<\/em> grasp absolute truth, I see this as both a propositional and universally true statement; both of which are beyond the latitude of emergent acceptance.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>This statement is exceptionally exclusive and makes no mention of Muhammad, Oprah or anyone else who is capable of establishing the path to God.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">If<\/em> one is to trust the Bible, one must accept this as a universally true statement; both for Christians <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">and<\/em> for anyone and everyone else.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>If, however, one trusts the Koran, one will reject this statement of Jesus and instead believe that <em>&#8220;The only true faith in God&#8217;s sight is Islam,&#8221; (Surah 3:19) <\/em><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: italic;\">and that <em>&#8220;Muhammad is God&#8217;s apostle.&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>(Surah 48:29)<\/em><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: italic;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Someone is wrong, and the issue isn&#8217;t a non-essential and lofty ideal which theologians ponder to one another in doctoral theses, but rather a foundational and static truth so easy to grasp that a child can see the difference.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Jesus <em>and<\/em> Muhammad cannot both be the singular mediator between man and God.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: italic;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">Religion is thus,\u00a0not relative; regardless of how charitable such a designation <em>sounds<\/em>.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Someone is right, and someone is wrong by the very merits of their mutually exclusive claims.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">Brian McLaren is a popular emergent teacher and author who is on the reading list of possibly every leading emergent teacher of any self-respect.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>He is for many the forward-most spokesperson for the movement.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Concerning Jesus&#8217; statement in John 14, McLaren states,<\/span><\/p>\n<h6 id=\"77_for-too-many-people-_1\" ><span style=\"font-size: small; color: #243f60; font-family: Calibri;\">&#8220;For too many people the name <em>Jesus<\/em> has become a symbol of exclusion, as if Jesus&#8217; statement &#8216;I am the way, and of the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through me&#8217; actually means, &#8216;I am in the way of people seeking truth and life.\u00a0 I won&#8217;t let anyone get to God unless he comes through me.'&#8221;\u00a0 Brian\u00a0 McLaren<em>, A Generous Orthodoxy<\/em>,\u00a0\u00a0 Page 70. <\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Immediately of interest in McLaren&#8217;s quote is his attempt to undermine Jesus&#8217; propositional &#8220;truth&#8221; statement of himself by replacing &#8220;the truth&#8221; with &#8220;of the truth&#8221; in his lax quoting of John 14:6.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>We&#8217;ll examine the emergent trend of banishing declarative statements from the Bible at a later point in this study.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>However, Jesus did not say &#8220;I am &#8216;of the&#8217; truth,&#8221; but rather &#8220;I am \u2026 &#8216;the truth.'&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Jesus did not claim to be part of the whole of truth, as McLaren would love for us all to believe, nor did he claim to be &#8220;of&#8221; the essence of the truth.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>He claimed to the embodiment of truth entirely; &#8220;I am &#8216;the way,&#8217; &#8216;the truth,&#8217; and &#8216;the life\u2026.'&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>The Greek states <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ho aletheia:<\/em> &#8220;the truth.&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">I normally study from numerous English translations before attempting to foray into the original Greek, of which I admittedly am weak.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>No translation of the Bible in my possession adds the word &#8220;of&#8221; before &#8220;the truth&#8221; in John 14:6.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 More importantly, there is no &#8220;of&#8221; in the original languages.\u00a0 In fact, quite the opposite is true.\u00a0 Jesus&#8217; assertion used a definite article, &#8220;the&#8221; truth &#8211; <em>ho aletheia &#8211; <\/em>\u00a0rather than an indefinite article, &#8220;a&#8221; truth or &#8220;of the&#8221; truth- as if there may be others in the wing to &#8220;fill in&#8221; what Jesus lacked. <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">While this may seem a very small &#8220;tweak&#8221; on MacLaren&#8217;s part &#8211; indeed it&#8217;s only the addition of a two-letter word &#8211; it fundamentally changes the text to a more post-modern, consumerized use.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>To say that Jesus is &#8220;of the truth&#8221; is a completely different assertion than to say that Jesus &#8220;is&#8221; the truth; that he is the totality of the embodiment of the truth, which <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">is<\/em> Jesus&#8217; proclamation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Continuing with a more decisive deconstruction of Jesus&#8217; statement, McLaren asserts that Jesus does <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">not<\/em> mean that Jesus &#8220;won&#8217;t let anyone get to God unless he comes through me.&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Did McLaren not read the rest of the text?<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Is Jesus unclear when he statically states the opposite of McLaren&#8217;s postulate?<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Jesus, in fact, made sure that McLaren could not rightly come about later and change his statement by clearly asserting &#8220;no one comes to the father except through me.&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Here&#8217;s an idea, Brian\u2026 the next time you want to change the message of the gospel texts (some time later today, I&#8217;m sure), <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">try not to quote one that says exactly the opposite of what you are trying to teach, huh?<\/em><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">Jesus <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">absolutely<\/em> meant that it is <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">only<\/em> through him that one can &#8220;get to God.&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>He <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">is <\/em>being exclusive!<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>He <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">is saying,<\/em> &#8220;I won&#8217;t let anyone get to God unless he comes through me.&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>This is the message of the whole of scripture.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Ironically, those who claim to be proponents of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.returningking.com\/?p=72\">narrative theology <\/a>are lost themselves in comprehending the very narrative they claim to be supporting.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Jesus is not &#8220;of&#8221; the truth, but he is <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">the one<\/em> who was prophesied hundreds of times in scripture to be coming to fulfill his mission of the restoration of man to God through his substitutionary atonement.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>It is of <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Jesus alone<\/em> that Peter states,<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNoSpacing\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in;\"><em><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\"><strong>Acts 4:12 (NIV) <\/strong><br \/>\n<sup>12 <\/sup>Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.&#8221; <\/span><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">It is he singularly &#8211; unique in <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">all<\/em> of creation &#8211; for whom it is said, &#8220;<em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">the stone the builders rejected has become the capstone<\/em> (Psalm 118:22, Matthew 21:42, 1 Peter 2:7).&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>He is <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">the<\/em> <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">one<\/em> who will crush Satan&#8217;s head (Gen 3:15), <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">the<\/em> <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">one<\/em> who was to be called &#8220;<em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Immanuel<\/em>&#8221; (Isaiah 7:14), <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">the<\/em> <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">one<\/em> who will bring salvation to Jerusalem riding on a donkey.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Indeed, the <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">narrative <\/em>of the whole of scripture points to one man alone as <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">the way, the truth, and the life.<\/em><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>That one is Jesus.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">I understand the idea that &#8220;inclusiveness&#8221; makes people who have rejected <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">the one<\/em> to feel better about their own positions.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>But, I wonder how Jesus feels that people claiming his name are referring to him as &#8220;a symbol of exclusion?&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>How exactly can we relegate one who came to earth in great humility, lived among the very sin which repulsed his nature and then <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">gave his life <\/em>to offer as a substitution for whosoever would call upon him as &#8220;exclusive???&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>How more <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">inclusive<\/em> can you be than to lay your life down for the world?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Clearly there is no problem with the clarity of Jesus&#8217; (declarative) statement in John 14:6, even, and especially in light of a legitimate narrative approach to scripture.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>The problem lies with the ability of post-modern thought to accept absolute truth as an acceptable end.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">While claiming that absolute truth exists, many emergents continue to teach that it cannot be fully understood with certainty.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>In all fairness, they do present a legitimate concern, which is that there are so many who &#8220;claim&#8221; to have the truth, yet there remain so many differing opinions on what that &#8220;truth&#8221; is.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>I have no issue with the sentiment that <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">all truth<\/em> cannot be fully known, or that &#8220;we cannot be certain about all truth,&#8221; but have great issues with the assertion that <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">no truth<\/em> can be known with certainty.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>I do understand and appreciate the sentiment of emergent leaders in stressing human fallacy in the interpretive process.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Indeed, we do not all agree on certain elements of the faith.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>However, the fact that we do not all agree does not maintain that we all must therefore be equally right or equally wrong, nor does it necessitate that the truth is incomprehensible.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Within the context of faith, I <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">am certain<\/em> there is a God and he sent his son (named Jesus, by the way) to die a penal substitution for the restoration of the world.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>I am not certain about eschatology, the exact definition of &#8220;predestined&#8221; or to what extent my prayer may alter God&#8217;s course.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>But I am certain that certainty exists in those areas of necessary substance.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">However, the emergent mindset has joined that of its culture: no one can be certain of the truth- even the most elemental facets of the truth- sufficiently.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>In a Christianity Today article, McLaren poses that orthodoxy is a historically unrealized possession.<\/span><\/p>\n<h6 id=\"77_i-dont-think-the-lib_1\" ><span style=\"font-size: small; color: #243f60; font-family: Calibri;\">&#8220;I don&#8217;t think the liberals have it right. But I don&#8217;t think we have it right either. None of us has arrived at orthodoxy.&#8221;<\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">While I&#8217;m not sure who &#8220;we&#8221; are from McLaren&#8217;s viewpoint (especially where &#8220;they&#8221; are &#8220;the liberals!&#8221;) it is clear that in his view &#8220;orthodoxy&#8221; is out of reach for us all.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>He further states his position in his book, <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">A Generous Orthodoxy.<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<h6 id=\"77_ask-me-if-christiani_1\" ><span style=\"font-size: small; color: #243f60; font-family: Calibri;\">Ask me if Christianity (my version of it, yours, the Pope\u2019s, whoever\u2019s) is orthodox, meaning true, and here\u2019s my honest answer: a little, but not yet.\u00a0 Assuming by Christianity you mean the Christian understanding of the world and God, Christian opinions on soul, text, and culture\u2026I\u2019d have to say that we probably have a couple of things right, but a lot of things wrong, and even more spreads before us unseen and unimagined.\u00a0 But at least our eyes are open!\u00a0 To be a Christian in a generously orthodox way is not to claim to have the truth captured, stuffed, and mounted on the wall.<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.svchapel.org\/Resources\/Articles\/read_articles.asp?ID=122#_edn13\"><span style=\"font-size: small; color: #0000ff; font-family: Calibri;\">[13]<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"color: #243f60;\"><span style=\"font-family: Calibri;\"><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>(Brian McLaren, <em>A Generous Orthodoxy<\/em> ( Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 2004), p.293<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">So McLaren finds himself not only attempting to reach post-moderns, but being fully immersed in their natures: attributing variance of opinions as evidence of a relativistic essence of truth.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>In short, the truth <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">cannot<\/em> <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">be known<\/em>, otherwise surely we would have all agreed to it by now.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>In two thousand years of history since the completion of the scriptural canon he has us relegated to having &#8220;a couple of things right, but a lot of things wrong.&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Once again, I&#8217;m not sure who &#8220;we&#8221; are in his quote.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>If he refers to emergents, I have to agree with him:<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>they have a couple of things right and a lot of things wrong.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Yet, from his answer it is clear that he refers to the whole of humanity; anyone&#8217;s &#8220;version&#8221; of truth is insufficient. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">For all of humanity, demonstrable, tangible and even calculable truths have been &#8220;missed&#8221; or even flat out rejected by portions of humanity.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Yet, the assumption that because <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">some<\/em> people are incapable of seeing or understanding truth, then <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">all<\/em> people are incapable of grasping the truth is simply illogical and juvenile.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>If this understanding is true, then does God exist at all??<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>For there are many who claim he does not; while others claim he does.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Is there any such thing as a legitimate &#8220;right&#8221; and &#8220;wrong?&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Some think such paradigms exist while others do not.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Or, more scientifically, does 12X12 actually equal 144?<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Surely there are some who do not possess the intellectual capacity to know the answer.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Does this mean the answer is &#8220;uncertain&#8221; to the rest of us?<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>To be sure, I am oversimplifying their position, but certainly far less than they are oversimplifying their legitimate issues with human inconsistency regarding the truth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">While it is true that not <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">all <\/em>truth can be known finitely, <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">some <\/em>truth, indeed <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">much truth<\/em> can be known from the scriptures by those who put their trust in them.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>The basic gospel message, while some will always disagree with it (indeed some will disagree with the very existence of the God who bestows it), is simple enough that a seven year old can receive it; just as I did at that age.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Within the confines of faith, which this entire debate is encapsulated, I can have certainty that God exists, that evil exists, that Christ came to be a substitutionary sacrifice and that I have peace with God through Christ.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Yes, we will always disagree on certain matters of the faith, but such disagreement does not negate orthodoxy to a mere dream in the many essential teachings of scripture concerning God, man, sin and salvation.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Sadly, the same cannot be said for those of the emergent mindset.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>In the same Christianity Today article noted earlier, Kristen Bell seems almost prideful about her particular\u00a0lack of certainty.<\/span><\/p>\n<h6 id=\"77_i-grew-up-thinking-t_1\" ><span style=\"font-size: small; color: #243f60; font-family: Calibri;\">&#8220;I grew up thinking that we&#8217;ve figured out the Bible,&#8221; Kristen says, &#8220;that we knew what it means. Now I have no idea what most of it means. And yet I feel like life is big again\u2014like life used to be black and white, and now it&#8217;s in color.&#8221;<\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">Kristen, I have no idea what some of it means, either.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>But, please do not think that means that the entirety of the message is somehow lost in the more difficult parts, or that that which <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">you do understand<\/em> loses integrity because of your lack of understanding of the whole. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">I fear that this movement is enticing our culture to a suspicion of the whole of the Bible from such statements as these of the Bells and McLaren. <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>If Christian leaders inspire the world to believe that the Bible cannot be understood sufficiently enough to establish an orthodox foundation in one&#8217;s belief, then the cycle of religious relativism will thrive among their very congregations. <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>Truth will be rejected in light of the more inclusive &#8220;wonder&#8221; of not being sure. <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>And God will not be impressed. <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>For,<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNoSpacing\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in;\"><em><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\"><strong>Romans 1:18-21 (NIV) <\/strong><br \/>\n<sup>18 <\/sup>The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, <sup>19 <\/sup>since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. <sup>20 <\/sup>For since the creation of the world God&#8217;s invisible qualities&#8211;his eternal power and divine nature&#8211;have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. <sup>21 <\/sup>For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. <\/span><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Scripture (which I believe to be comprehensible in essential matters especially) teaches that the necessities of the knowledge of God are &#8220;clearly seen&#8221; and that men who reject it do so for lack of willingness to accept it. <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>In the end, they will be &#8220;without excuse&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0as they stand before the God of truth, who <em>made truth to be seen.<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 12pt 0in;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">How sad judgment will be for people, some perhaps students of this &#8220;generous&#8221; movement, who will stand before God and claim &#8220;I don&#8217;t think you made the Bible clear enough to be trusted entirely.&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>He has stated beforehand that he will not recant, repent and come to see things our way.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>May we instead have an exclusive faith which will inspire us to see things <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">his<\/em> way; for clearly those things of which &#8220;God has made it plain to them&#8221; will be sufficient.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"seriesmeta\">This entry is part 13 of 23 in the series <a href=\"http:\/\/returningking.com\/?series=wolves\" class=\"series-218\" title=\"Wolves in Wool\">Wolves in Wool<\/a><\/div><p>Religious Relativism (part 2 of Emergent Characteristics) &#8220;Relativism&#8221; is the philosophical concept that a certain aspect of one&#8217;s experience is dependent upon another.\u00a0 For example, one person may believe an individual to be beautiful while another person believes that same individual to be quite unsightly.\u00a0 In such cases, the application or understanding of beauty is [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[6,13],"tags":[25,64,65,74,150],"series":[218],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/returningking.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/returningking.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/returningking.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/returningking.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/returningking.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=77"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/returningking.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/returningking.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=77"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/returningking.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=77"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/returningking.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=77"},{"taxonomy":"series","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/returningking.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fseries&post=77"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}